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gatvol
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Posted - 15 February 2006 :  09:05:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I travel every day (as many of us do!) in traffic jams on a major London arterial. What worries me is the need to squeeze between the vehicles in the traffic lanes to get ahead. The cars and lorries are obviously stuck in their lanes, but are motorcyclists allowed to go between them ie drive up the lane markings? I have almost had a few accidents myself with cars pulling out suddenly to change lanes, and as the relative speeds are quite high between bike and car the chance of a bad accident is high. Who would be in the wrong?

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Posted - 10 April 2006 :  18:46:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Gavtol

This is a tricky one until recently the motorcyclist would always be in the wrong as they are technically creating an extra lane and there is no official guidance for filtering in the Highway code, the nearest you can get is on over taking where it states "Do not overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road"
However recently a motorcyclist won a case where they were knocked off their bike while filtering. There is a bit more information at http://www.sites4bikes.com/Filtering.htm.

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Posted - 11 April 2006 :  14:03:54  Show Profile  Visit elitesecurity's Homepage  Reply with Quote
HI There,

As long as this is considered filtering your OK, Filtering is defined at 5-10 mph more than the vehicles you are passing and of course in a safe manner :)

AS your passing the vehicle look in their mirror, if you cant see them they cant see you.

Personally I allways drive with my lights on and in poor visability I wear a flouresant vest, it all helps

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Posted - 14 April 2006 :  10:39:42  Show Profile  Visit www.fastbikefinder.com's Homepage    Reply with Quote
This has always been a 'grey area' where the law is concerned.

Until recently, it has been hard to proove your innocence or entitlement in an accident related to 'filtering'.

The previously mentioned article in MCN was a landmark case, as the judge allowed the defence of filtering against the prosecutor.

I would think there will still be plenty of insurance companies who in 'tat for tat' cases will choose to dismiss the case of 'filtering' , do not take it as a license to 'filter' thinking that in an accident you will be backed up by your insurance company, as at the end of the day they are there to make money, rather than spending it on bikers who choose to endanger their lives with filtering , speeding and stunting on our roads.

The landamrk case was very special and unique , and even though it may have opened the doors for many others in the future, it should not be relied upon.

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Posted - 14 April 2006 :  10:50:34  Show Profile  Visit www.fastbikefinder.com's Homepage    Reply with Quote
It may be interesting to see Access Underwriting's views on this subject!

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Posted - 14 April 2006 :  22:37:14  Show Profile  Visit Access Underwriting's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Filtering is legal provided it is done in a safe manner. It has to be slow moving traffic and not just zipping down the outside at a fair old speed as you see some scooters. 5-10mph and being able to stop if a car opened its door or does a u-turn is the usual Police/ Roadcraft advice.

As specialist motorcycle insurers, we are keen to support the motorcyclist where ever possible and would certainly not look to dismiss a case out of hand. Full details of the circumstances would be taken into consideration, however where there are no witnesses and both parties come up with a conflicting statement, the case will often go 50/50 or if circumstances are wrong for the biker, i.e. excessive speed, not visible, then it will go agaist them.

Take care when filtering and be safe.

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